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Thursday, September 01, 2005

The World is Flat

I underupt my daily nonsense to say that there is someone who reads my blog that does not believe there is any evidence that the storms we see now are linked to climate change.
He asked me for some evidence here it is:
from a yahoo news article:

There are people looking for the connections," Kossin said. "As far as connections to frequency, no one has uncovered that. The instrument records just don't go back that far."

But research published just last month in the science journal Nature did, for the first time, show a statistical link between increasing sea surface temperatures due to climate change and the power of recent hurricanes.

Kerry Emanuel, an atmospheric researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, showed in his studies that the increases in storm intensity are directly related to increases in the average surface temperature of the world's tropical oceans.

In terms of monetary damage, the Insurance Information Institute reports that, of the five most costly hurricanes before Katrina in the history of the United States, three happened last year. Part of the destruction can be explained by more people living in coastal areas. The National Oceanic and Atomspheric Administration estimates that 53 percent of the nation's population now lives along a coastline.

But Emmanuel found that hurricane wind speeds have increased by about 50 percent since 1949. Hurricane duration has increased by roughly 60 percent over that period, Emmanuel said.


oy its like there are still people saying the world is flat. We have to take some action on this and stop letting idiots clog up the efforts of rational people.

12 Comments:

Blogger Elder of Ziyon said...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8245668/

It looks to me that anyone who says with any degree of certainty that global warming is increasing hurricane frequency or strength is practicing junk science. It is fashionable to blame every weather catastrophe on global warming and it is just advocacy, not science.

The total number of worldwide hurricanes has remained pretty constant, and the numbers of more localized hurricanes seem very cyclical.

Global warming may be an issue, but its seriousness is far more debatable than many articles would have us believe.

9:48 AM  
Blogger mojoala said...

God gave us dominion over this world and we have done a piss poor job of caring for it....

We are reaping what we have sewn....

hope ya don't mind some new testaments references....

11:37 AM  
Blogger callieischatty said...

Both of you shut up~! :+}

Elder science has shown it to be true.

Its not in doubt! The article I posted said so!

MIT is a real school and they know things like that.


Go home and plant trees.

12:16 PM  
Blogger callieischatty said...

No Mojo feel free, we are ecumenical on this blog.

12:17 PM  
Blogger Elder of Ziyon said...

Callie, "science" did not say so. One researcher said so, and the article quoted one that disagreed:

"Emmanuel's findings were controversial; some scientists disagreed with his data. In fact, Chris Landsea, one of the nation's leading hurricane researchers, said he is not convinced by the paper and questioned whether Emmanual's research included a thorough enough look at historical data."

If the results are not replicable, it is not science - it is an unproven theory. Even the writer of the paper said that warming has nothing to do with frequency, but severity. Yet other equally prominent hurricane researchers say that warming would have the opposite effect, because the severity of storms are linked to the difference in temperature between the poles and the equator - warming would be more pronounced at the poles, meaning smaller hurricanes.

There are way too many variables involved to make such a claim with any certainty.

3:59 PM  
Blogger callieischatty said...

Well don't you agree that climate change from greenhouse gas does exist?

4:46 PM  
Blogger Elder of Ziyon said...

That seems to be true, although it is unclear that it is hurting things as much as some say. But I am all for reducing pollution as long as the cost is not prohibitive.

8:52 PM  
Blogger callieischatty said...

Elder, doesn't it at least seem like a good idea for all of us to plant some trees?

One for everyone in our household?

It would seem from my reading of the evidence on climate chage that few refute the idea that greenhouse gases have changed the weather for the worse.

Yes, all these scientists do not agree.

Yet what they do agree on are some basic ideas that even someone lik eme can connect.

There is clearly too much CO2 in the air.

So Elder, lets all plant some trees.

I planted four nice little cedar trees today. :+}

11:12 PM  
Blogger Elder of Ziyon said...

Trees are always good!

9:23 AM  
Blogger callieischatty said...

Yes we must all plant more trees!

10:51 AM  
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11:41 PM  

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